#Surinamese Art

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Found in abandoned rum bottles, baccoo are known for both their propensity to perform tasks or wishes of those who bring them home, as well as their trickster natures when they haven't been properly fed.

For those folks who find a baccoo more trouble than they are worth, they reseal the spirit in the bottle before tossing them back out into the sea. There the baccoo will remain until they are found by another person in the future.

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Soeki Irodikromo

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Acrylic on canvas, 120×150cm, 2018

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Afro-Surinamese woman, Liesbeth Accord, Suriname, by Misjab

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Maria Sibylla Merian was born #OTD (German, 2 Apr 1647 – 13 Jan 1717).

Here are a few of her works that were recently on display at the “Making Her Mark: A History of Women Art in Europe, 1400-1800” exhibition at Baltimore Museum of Art :

1. “Pineapple with Cockroaches” in Dissertatio de Generatione et Metamorphosibus Insectorum Surinamensium... (Dissertation on the generations and metamorphosis of Surinamese insects), 1719

Bound volume of hand-colored engravings and etchings

“This ripening pineapple's sweet aroma attracts a swarm of cockroaches. Maria Sibylla Merian observed this interaction during a three-year, self-financed voyage with her daughter Dorothea Maria to the South American country of Suriname, then a Dutch colony, in 1699. While there, Merian studied the native plant and insect life, learning their uses and behavior from enslaved African and Indigenous guides working at the sugar plantation where she stayed. In her notes, Merian characterized the pineapple as "the most outstanding of all edible fruits" and cockroaches as "the most infamous of all insects in America."

Merian's illustrations innovatively presented insect life cycles, habitats, and the broader ecological dynamic. After returning to the Netherlands, Merian published an illustrated compilation, creating one of the most important natural history publications of the time.

Her daughters Dorothea Maria Graff and Johanna Helena Herolt-Graff continued to issue editions after Merian's death, such as this deluxe version, contributing to their mother's foundational reputation in entomology.”

2. Frontispiece of Der Raupen wunderbare Verwandelung und sonderbare Blumen-Nahrung (The Wondrous Transformation of Caterpillars and their Curious Diet of Flowers), 1679-83

Bound volume w/ hand colored engraved illustrations

3. Convolvulus and Metamorphosis of the Convolvulus Hawk Moth, c.1670-1683

Watercolor w/ touches of opaque watercolor over indications in black chalk or graphite on vellum

“Maria Sibylla Merian had a close relationship with caterpillars, rearing them from egg to adult in her home over a decade. This engaging illustration of the life cycle of the convolvulus hawk moth on the wall above is the result of her sustained observations and her exceptional artistic talent. Creating an intertwined vignette of insect and plant life, Merian constructed a life cycle image that became a standard in scientific illustration and shaped the field of entomology. Her findings and illustrations contributed to a foundational reference text on insect metamorphosis, Der Raupen wunderbare Verwandlung und sonderbare Blumen-Nahrung, on display here.”

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Hi! I hope this isn’t bad to ask but I’m going to the Netherlands in a couple of weeks (first time traveling outside the US) and I was wondering if u have any recommendations on things to do/foods from the area I should try?

hi anon!

I've been thinking about this for a while, cause I wanted to give you some tips that aren't also in any google search, so here they are, sorted into an activity, food, and general tips to survive the country section (it's mostly focused on Amsterdam and Utrecht, cause that's where I have the most experience)

Under the cut cause I had a lot to say apparently

Activities:

In Amsterdam, I love the Hortus, which is a botanical garden dating from the 17th century! It's partly outside but there are several indoor parts that are really pretty!

This probably is in the google searches but the Amsterdam Light Festival is going on, and it's really fun. There's a walking route and boat tours, but you can also just keep your eyes open when moving through the city and spot the art works that way

The Hallen in Amsterdam is a really fun place to go if you want to do something a little more lowkey, there's a few cute stores, expositions, a market hall-style food place and a cinema, as well as some events that they host certain days!

I haven't done this myself but the Adam Tower (in Noord, so you can take the ferry from central station which is fun) has a lookout deck where you can see the whole city! There's a swing set where you can book a place to swing over the edge I think (Europe's highest swing let's go). My brother did this a few years ago and thought it was really fun!

If you like books Savannah Bay in Utrecht is one of my favs, one of the top bookstores I've ever been to in my life in general I think

When in Utrecht pls hit the Miffy stoplight, it takes 5 minutes and she's a national icon (it's literally just a stoplight with a Miffy figure and it's adorable)

This may not be worth it if you're only here for a short period of time but if you have a day where you want to escape the city, Dutch beaches are beautiful even in the winter! The practice of uitwaaien (lit. outblowing), or walking into the wind to feel more invigorated (specifically a winter thing and popular among the Dutch especially on Boxing Day or New Years Day), is really nice to do sometimes, and a beach walk can be nice for a change!

Food:

Stroopwafels are on every list BUT I'd specifically recommend getting a hot one somewhere, cause they're much better than the packaged ones! They sell them at outdoor markets and I'm sure there's also some stores that have them!

Everyone also always talks about hagelslag but I personally prefer vlokken, which is a similar concept but thinner so they're nice and crispy would recommend

If you want a quick lunch, Bagels & Beans is a small chain that's got places across the country, they have nice bagels and I have it on good authority the coffee's also good!

If you want to get takeaway food, I would highly recommend Surinamese food. These generally don't really have restaurants and the places I've been to haven't really differed in quality so I'd just pick a nearby one but you simply must eat roti (a dish popular across the Caribbean so not specifically Surinamese but delicious) it rules so hard

Editing this cause I just walked past an oliebollen stall and you should absolutely try one of those if you’re here on time they’re a traditional Dutch new years treat!

General tips:

Always look every way when crossing the street even if it's one-way cause bikes can and will come from everywhere

In a similar vein: some tourists think bike bells are rung simply for fun, they are not, they have the same function of a car horn! If you hear one please do get off the road lmao it'll save you a lot of cursing from the locals

Pretty much everyone here speaks English really well, but a general rule of thumb for non-English speaking countries is that it's really appreciated if you learn at least hello and thank you in the local language (hallo and dank je wel in Dutch)!

Finally, a request more than a tip: please don't rent a bike cause it's genuinely dangerous. 99% of tourists can't bike that well and even those that can aren't used to the type of traffic here, as it's incredibly chaotic because of all the bikes, and tourists on bikes are even less prepared for that than ones that are walking (I know it looks fun I get it but the amount of times I've almost gotten into an accident bc a tourist made a weird swerve is so high I just had to put this in)

I hope you have a lovely trip anon, enjoy!!! <3

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what qualities do you and your oc have in common?

oc q&a // @unbearablyindifferent

i actually put a lot more of myself in this oc than i initially thought i would: we are both of dutch-indian/surinamese descent, we both have dyscalculia and we have both been burned by the education system, we were both born prematurely and therefore our bodies don't do well with internal temperature regulation. we both like pineapple and anchovies (though not at the same time) on our pizza. we are both calm and would rather talk things through. we both have a strong sense of justice and right and wrong. we are both stubborn. we both have opinions tm. we both took our parents to a slam poetry night and came out afterwards. we both have tempers but those don't show until pushed to a certain point. we both love books. we both love languages. we both speak more than one. we both have done theatre and spoken word.

but she also has a lot of things that do not allign with me because udyati is so active and whenever i think about the things she'd be into, sports-wise, or martial arts-wise, i already get tired. she likes mushrooms on pizza while i cannot with the taste/texture. i think she's also a lot bolder than i am. or has become a lot bolder through interactions on here. she gives her heart away quite easily. she speaks hindi. she's the daughter of a single mother, etc.

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Is Planning A Trip To Amsterdam Worth It?

Want to plan a trip to Amsterdam, Netherlands but unsure if it's worth it? Well, there are so many things to consider while planning your trip. But if you are looking for a fun-filled adventure with beautiful canals, rich history, and picturesque views, Amsterdam has got you covered. So, one thing is for sure, Amsterdam is 100% worth traveling! Despite all the crowds you may witness in peak season, this city is brimming with everything spectacular. From historical museums to exquisite natural beauty, you will love your days spent here exploring the scenic views and vibrant culture. 

Several museums to explore

One of the best things about Amsterdam is that it has a wide variety of museums to offer for the taste of every individual. Whether you love to explore the art of famous artists or love to dive into history, you can find something in Amsterdam to explore and enjoy. If you love art, then you can visit the Van Gogh Museum, Rijksmuseum, or Stedelijk Museum. If you love to explore history, then you can explore the Jewish Museum or Anne Frank House.  

Besides this, there are several other museums in Amsterdam that you can explore to enjoy a unique experience. However, you have to book the slots in advance so that you can visit the museum without any unnecessary hassle. You can check out different museums at thingstodoinamsterdam.com and then pick your favorite ones to book the tickets in advance.

Vibrant Nightlife

Amsterdam offers amazing nightlife, especially for party lovers. There is a wide array of cocktail bars, pubs, luxury clubs, and karaoke spots where you can enjoy some quality time with your loved ones and close friends. The city comes alive after dark with an array of entertainment options to suit all tastes. The city’s liberal and open-minded culture creates a welcoming environment for everyone. So, you can easily create memorable night-out memories in the capital with your loved ones. Whether you like to dance the night away, enjoy a canal-side drink, or explore some late-night cultural events, Amsterdam's nightlife scene is sure to impress.

Perfect for surrounding adventures

Amsterdam is the perfect place to plan a day trip with your gang. You can explore the local nature of the Netherlands by pacing your base in Amsterdam and planning different adventures. There are several options for day trips and weekend getaways. You can explore The Hague where you will get an outstanding beach with several impressive museums. 

You can opt for a train and visit the club houses in Rotterdam and then visit the Markthal to enjoy some delicious food options. You can even rent a car with your friends and explore fairytale castes, flower gardens, and other lesser-known spots to admire the beauty of the region. In short, from adventure to some relaxing laid-back experience, you can plan everything from Amsterdam easily.

Delicious food spot

Amsterdam is like a paradise for food lovers. The Dutch capital offers a wide range of dining options that highlight both traditional cuisine and international flavors. The city boasts numerous Michelin-starred restaurants, trendy cafes, and vibrant food markets. Moreover, you can enjoy local favorites like stroopwafels, herring, and Dutch pancakes at street vendors and specialty shops. On top of this, the Jordaan neighborhood is known for its cozy eateries, while De Pijp features the famous Albert Cuyp Market with its diverse food stalls. 

Amsterdam also caters to global tastes, with a rich selection of Indonesian, Surinamese, and Mediterranean restaurants. Whether you want to savor the gourmet dishes in an upscale setting or enjoy the local street food, Amsterdam will definitely satisfy your palate.

The Bottom Line

By now, you must have got an idea of what Amsterdam has to offer. The warm hospitality of locals who respect all religions and sexualities is a great thing to witness as well. The only con that you may find is that some people may be too loud or on drugs and bother others. Just steer clear of this, you will surely love this European gem. We wholeheartedly recommend you to visit Amsterdam and you will not be disappointed at all!

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~Sexypink~  Special Surinamese artist 'Soeki' Irodikromo’ died Today the famous painter, maker of ceramic art and Batik, Sukidjan Irodokromo, died in his native country Suriname. He turned 75 years old. Soeki leaves the world special works of art. Sukidjan Irodikromo was born June 20, 1945 in Pieterszorg in Commewijne District. From 1963 to 1967 he attended a course at the Cultural Center Suriname (CCS school for Visual Arts conducted by Nola Hatterman) in Paramaribo. Back then, American President Johnson bought a painting from him, and a week later, Soeki was told that he was receiving a grant from STICUSA (Cultural Cooperation Foundation with Suriname and the Netherlands Antilles) to go to the Netherlands and study there. From 1967 to 1972 he did the free painting and chart at the Academy of Fine Arts in Rotterdam and from 1971 to 1972 he deepened himself into the ceramic. Afterwards he continued his studies with a batic training at the ASRI in Jogyakarta, Indonesia.

Back in Suriname he introduced batik painting there. Both in his batik cloths and oil paintings and his ceramic (vases and images), Irodikromo achieved a large production of almost constant quality. His work is in collections spread all over the world. He also made the illustrations in various books. From his admiration for Cobra expressionism, he started working in a style that connected the half abstraction of Cobra to themes and symbols from Javanese mythology. With this he was the first Surinamese artist to bring together tradition and modernity in his own idiom. Sukidjan Irodikromo's works of art are inspired by the Wayang game, Kantjil and Anansi tori. He is among the generation and caliber of Erwin de Vries, Ruben Karsters, Rudi de la Fuente and Paul Woei. Important message he leaves us is: ′′ Let your kids go to school. That gives them power. In the Netherlands I had adjustment problems and language problems. But that didn't stop me from moving on. I dared, because it's about the quality of my work ".

Family background

His parents were farmers. The plantation life used to be very simple. Grandpa and grandma could teach us nothing but work, because for other things they had neither time nor knowledge. Working with a ' berang ' (houwer) and ' pacol ' (hoeing) was the only thing that was taught them. Building a house was done with 'gotong royong' (mutual assistance). Neighbors and family helped each other. A lot of ' teloh ' (cassave), ' gedang ' (banana), fresh fish, such as ' teri ' (salted little fish) and ' ikan asin ' (salty fish) were eaten daily. Sometimes the family had nothing and ate rice with the oil in which the fish was baked. Meat was only eaten when someone threw a party and with 'Bada' (Sugar Fest). Father Irodikromo would have saved up for new pants for the kids.

People in that time believed in ' kersane Allah ' (God's will). ′′ I leave it to tomorrow's day was what people said. Closing the plantations was quite a vein release for many families. Also for the Irodikromo family. They subsequently used the possibility to purchase land on the plantation Koewarasan, which the family moved to.

http://www.oas.org/artsoftheamericas/soeki-irodikromo

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The Emergence of a Diasporic Singular Desi Culture

I have been observing this for a while on several social media platforms and I have a theory that a singular “Desi” culture is taking shape in North America, and perhaps other diasporas. Since I haven’t had much experience with other diasporas in several years, I will only focus on this phenomenon through a North American lense.

The reason for saying is that I increasingly see young South Asians, in particular, Gen Z, make tiktoks mentioning how “our” culture is beautiful, and then proceed to show off cultural dress, cuisine, art, architecture etc. playing to a remixed Bollywood song.

The issue here is not showing appreciation, but the issue is using the singular from of culture instead of the plural — cultures.

South Asia is not a monolith, nor does it have one culture, so which culture in particular are we here appreciating? Every country, whether it would be Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Nepal, (Southern) Tibet (controversial, I know) , The Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, and Diaspora countries like Suriname, Guyana, Belize, Trinidad & Tobago, Jamaica, Mauritius, Fiji etc. all have self-contained individual cultures that are inter-connected or unique to their own region.

These tiktoks, from my observation, show only Northern Indian cultural aspects with a heavy emphasis on Punjabi culture. Popular Tiktok dances feature Hindi and Punjabi, yet rarely any music from other states. Then again, it is called fyp for a reason. It may be the content I interact with, but then again I interact with a broad spectrum of self-stylized Desi creators on “brown tiktok”. From North to South.

Every now and then, there is legitimate criticism on limiting Desi tiktok to Hindi-Urdu and Punjabi songs where a number of videos have been circulating to test one’s “Desiness” whether you know these songs or not. Same goes for movies. If not, then you are white-washed. What about the rest, who don’t speak Hindi-Urdu or Punjabi? This is why being “Desi” is quite controversial because it means different things to different people.

Why do I think that there is singular North American Desi culture emerging? It is because Bollywood consumption plays a central role in it in making the younger generation believe that there is a such thing as one culture being portrayed in Bollywood while reality is something very different.

I as a Punjabi am used to seeing my culture being hyper-represented in Indo-Pak media. In fact, it is the culture that is used in Bollywood and Lollywood productions the most when we talk about cultural reprentation. Same for music, apart from Hindi, Punjabi is the only regional language that gets that much attention and gone worldwide – for good and bad reasons.

Home culture is very different. We all have our own home culture that we grew up in. We have our languages, our own foods, our own clothes, own histories, yet when these younger Desis present themselves to the outside world, it all dissipates and changed into this Bollywood-esque performance.

We suddenly ALL eat naan, biryani, samosein, jalebi, gulab jamun, roti and we ALL speak Hindi, wear saris, lehengas, shalwar kameezein and are ALL Indian, desi, and brown.

Yet, here I am, not knowing anything about other regional dishes other than my own which ironically is all of the above and more as a Punjabi-Pakistani. I have no idea what Gujuratis eat, no idea what Sindhis eat, I had no idea what Marathi sounded. I had no idea Bihari songs were popular. I have no idea what Assamese wear.

It disregards everything unique and hyper-focuses on Bollywood and Punjab as the source for this repackaged Desi culture. Bengali home culture, Punjabi home culture, Pashtun home culture, Tamizh home culture, Devehi home culture, Indo-Guyanese home culture, Indo-Surinamese home culture are all different environments, yet you won’t see that when you land on #browntok, instead you will see this generic brand where everyone supposedly can participate in disregarding that it leaves people out and alienizes anyone that doesn’t relate to “Desi culture”

I find it so odd that Patels are quite well represented, yet know nothing about Gujurati culture or their language other than “kemcho”. The reason why I bring this up is because the culture would be seen as foreign to the Desi-sphere and not recognizable as Desi because people views this “Desi culture” though a very narrow lense.

In a way this Desi culture is just repackaged Punjabi culture made palatable for the masses that are fixated on romanticized images of their home countries disregarding class differences, history, and culture. People don’t realize that only certain classe wore such ornamental dresses like the lehenga choli and thatvit was limited to a certain class or money and still is, yet is touted as something accessible to anyone.

Big “Indian” weddings are not the norm, they are the exception, yet still are juxtapositioned with White Weddings as being something extravagent. It only works if you or family have money.

Bottomline: this Desi singular culture does not exist outside of social media realistically because we all have our own cultural aspects that are unique. Bollywood is not an accurate and reliable cultural representation. You are not cultured by watching Bollywood movies, you are a good consumer. People need to show off their regional cultures more.

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[image description: art of Hatsune Miku with medium brown skin, wearing a Surinamese outfit and holding a rose. End ID]

Suriname miku 🇸🇷

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The Bakru [Surinamese mythology; Guyanese mythology]

In the Winti religion of Suriname, the Bakru are a kind of mysterious spirit. They are small humanoids, the size of a child, and their body is half wood and half flesh. They are often portrayed as kids with a comically oversized head.

Belief in the Bakru is still alive today. If I understand it correctly, they are a kind of malicious trickster spirit, but not particularly dangerous. In 2019, a man who stole car parts claimed that the Bakru spirits forced him to do it.

These creatures, also called Bakuu or Baccuu in Guyana, are known to make deals with humans. Such a deal makes the human rich and successful, at the cost of the wellbeing of his family members. When people become rich in a relatively short time, they are often accused of having made a contract with a Bakuu. This suspicion usually falls on people who seem to have changed after becoming rich, and those whose family members experienced misfortunes. They are said to ‘own’ a Bakuu. In addition, some Saramaka people claim that such a contract may involve sacrificing your newborn child. 

Although often considered as relatively harmless, these spirits are known to possess people. When this happens, obeah-men (ritual healers) and priests of Kali (a Hindu deity) are called upon to exorcise the spirit.

It is dangerous, however, when a Bakuu owner dies or leaves. Those who move into the abandoned house will find themselves being plagued by the angry spirit: their valuables disappear, illnesses and diseases constantly plague them, etc.

Sources: Pires, R. B. W., Strange, S. E. and Mello, M. M., 2018, The Bakru Speaks: Money-Making Demons and Racial Stereotypes in Guyana and Suriname, New West Indian Guide. https://www.waterkant.net/suriname/2019/07/23/man-geeft-bakrus-de-schuld-voor-het-stelen/ (image source 1: ivarhennep.nl) (image source 2: Fabian Quinterro, concept art for Creatures of Myth and Legend trading card game)

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1707, o/d 58 x 46 Kopenhagen Statens Museum for Kunst

Dutch Painter: Dirk Valkenburgiyjj

TITLED: SLAVE DANCE

Article notes:

The Great Suriname Exhibition, in 2019 in De Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam.

Note: THIS EXHIBIT WAS THE FIRST TO BE APPROVED OF THE NUMEROUS REQUESTED IN THE NETHERLANDS....WHY?

"In itself an understandable choice because a ceremony or festivity can be seen in this work of art. The artist has depicted the large group of ‘partying’ people in great detail from myriad vantage points of the Surinamese people in community.( Although descriptions and accounts of this moment )".  

HATE HOW THE WORK IS LITERALLY DEPICTING A CELEBRATION AND RITUAL AND IT STILL ENDED UP BEING

TITLED: SLAVE DANCE.

"This was also the case for another exhibition in the Nieuwe Kerk: Black is beautiful. Rubens to Dumas in 2008, which I curated".

One of the elements that has intrigued me for a longest time about this work is the woman with the bra on the far right. Did they already exist then? Did she invent it (I secretly hope so). 

GIRL , IF YOU DON'T GET OUTTA HERE.

NOTHING I HATE MORE THAN A WHITE PERSON CURATING AN EXHIBIT CALLED "BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL". THIS IS WORTHY OF A KNIFE FIGHT!!!!

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Armand Baag (Surinamese-Dutch, 1941-2001) - Art Does Not Pay (1984)

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Well turns out the other post won’t be the last one.

Decided not to put anything under a cut but this post is tagged ‘long post’ so you can click on it at will. I’ve added shorter sections in (brackets) to put together the point.

It’s always been like this. In fact a couple of months ago I made a silly post about it. Please stop giving each other ass-pats about how not-racist you might be. Or how your one non-white friend says whatever you posted is not racist.

White people: Stop being performative allies.

My fellow peas of the seas, or individuals who aren’t white who interact on this western website: Being a poc is not a trump card to claim we can’t contribute to specific forms of racism.

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I remember back when I was 17 I defended some (then not obvious to me) clearly racist art a white friend of mine made. I spoke to the people who came onto her art and told them they were trolling, they had to be. Spoke in all caps sometimes, had bolded stuff, all weird ways of talking with this demeaning or passive aggressive tone. I remember thinking ‘hey, do they know I’m a person of colour? They must feel silly! Here I am, a poc, who clearly says this is ok!’ But it wasn’t. In this instance the racist art depicted an indigenous person, and this was an instance of racism against indigenous people, and I am not indigenous. (Translation: Defending racism is bad, even if the people who say racism is bad might be mean to you.)

I also have defended white people who lived in a bubble of whiteness. I figured, well, they live in the bubble, or they’re young, and their actions weren’t coming from a place of malice because they didn’t know any better.  (Translation: Even if you’re a nice person, your actions can still be bad, and you should acknowledge this.)

When someone points out to you that something is racist, you shouldn’t jump to a knee-jerk defence or being passive aggressive in acceptance of this fact. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but you’ll have to go through it. Remember this is not about coddling white feelings, it’s about the reproduction of white supremacy and racist ideologies in a multitude of settings. (Translation: Even if you don’t know anything about racism, or don’t think you’re racist, you could still be. Racism is not as simple as one action. It is a global structure that influences the world.)

Reproducing racist ideologies is something that people of colour can also be guilty of. This means that they don’t have the power to be racist (as racism is about a hierarchical power structure where whiteness is as the top, aka white supremacy) BUT they have the ability to reproduce (or repeat, mimic, etc) the racist ideologies that are prevalent all over the world. (Translation: Because racism is everywhere, everyone can do it, even if they don’t wish to.)

Yes, not everyone has the luxury of being able to understand English to a level that certain concepts come across. Which is why I’ve taken the liberty of adding tl;dr to the end of each paragraph to get that point across for my fellow ESL speakers. However not speaking English well enough can be used as another excuse for condoning racist actions by others. (Translation: Saying I don’t know better is not the solution to stop being racist. Trying to understand the other person is.) 

The point is to stop making excuses. Stop defending the racist. Stop defending racist actions, no matter how small or big they are. 

It is also not up to the people who are actually hurt by this to coddle you and teach you. If you wish to learn more please follow blogs that are specifically talking about these issues. Here’s one. Here’s another. Here’s a fandom specific one. Here are also my own posts about xenophobia and more xenophobia. Unfortunately they are heavy with academic writing but I’ll hope to make a simple English version of it one day. (Translation: Here’s helpful blogs for you to learn more from!)

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As for the people of colour who talk about adding nuance, different perspectives, and how racism is complicated. Yeah. It really is. But whichever argument I see brought up about ethnic issues are still ethnic issues. That’s about xenophobia. I often talk about xenophobia and racism not being the same thing for a white audience, but I feel like maybe I’ve left fellow people of colour out of the conversation.

I’ll speak from my own experiences regarding this, because I could pull situations from all over the world but it wouldn’t be genuine nor would I be the expert. So. In my mother’s country we have many different ethnic groups who most of are not white (I’m pretty sure they make up less than 1% of the population), who sometimes get into conflict with one another. When they discriminate against one another, that’s definitely a bad thing. However when these groups fight both discrimination against ethnic groups and racial categories come to light, as the two are almost always heavily interlinked for people of colour.  (Translation: Racism and xenophobia overlap and connect when it comes to people of colour.)

This country (Suriname) was colonised by western forces so it brought along a lot of strife. While no Surinamese person would probably refer to themselves in Suriname as a person of colour, when they are put in a Western context they definitely always do. When groups fight against each other they use both rhetoric imposed on them by western colonial forces (racism) and hatred for other ethnic groups (xenophobia). Because both groups are still groups of colour, they are only capable of reproducing racism, not producing it, as they have no power to in the structure of racism. (Translation: People of colour can discriminate one another with something they have power over, and reproducing racism.)

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This entire conversation has also highlighted something that I’ve deliberately avoided in my previous posts, but my fellow black Tumblr friends haven’t, and that is the issue of anti-blackness.

Throughout all of this it seems like many different ethnicities have obviously come together and argue on different sides, but one side seems to be devoid of a certain race that has spoken up against these issues over and over. 

When black people tell you that something is racist, your knee-jerk reaction shouldn’t be ‘but it isn’t, because I’m not white, and I approve of this.’ Going back to that story of 17-year-old me, I was not the racial group affected by the drawing. I was not offended, because it wasn’t my racial identity that was being mocked. When black people tell you that something is racist, you can assume that they’re telling you something is anti-black.

Don’t turn this a conversation only about the voices of people of colour when at the heart of the topic it’s been about anti-blackness shown by a multitude of people from different ethnic groups, white or not.

I’ve seen people act like they’re on the good side because surely they’re supporting people of colour who’ve told them that the side I’m arguing on seems to be ridiculous. I’m calling people names! Making assumptions! I’m stuck in a western perspective talking over non-western people.

Then turn around and they’re not boosting black voices. They’re not mentioning anti-blackness anywhere. I see MLK quotes taken out of context. They’re clamouring to reblog or create art depicting black characters or meta about them, while that art is either fetishistic or was proven to be made by a racist (who was proven to be so like 2 whole minutes ago).

(Translation: Don’t throw black people under the bus. Listen to us when we’re talking about anti-blackness. All poc are indeed not the same, so don’t treat it like it is.)

I hope this will be the last time I’ll talk about this. But I have a bad feeling it won’t be.

[bonenkruid]

so my wonderful pal kelly @yikesalert tagged me in this a bit ago, thank you!. in return i tag @hunting-for-pirate-booty @finngualart @princessprouvaire @devilynz @desert-scng and @mychemicalreturn. have fun go wild if u feel like it.

lets go wahoo

name: cillian

nickname: cill, cilli, chillian, egg, bean, noodle, murd (short for murder), homi (short for homicide)

star sign: capricorn

gender: just fucking vibing bro. imagine a small clementine wedge cradled in your palm. yeah. i call myself a man tho

current time: as i type this: 10:38 pm

favourite artist: currently its mcr and all their side projects. but i also love dead poet society an absurd amount

song stuck in my head: lets go vine

last movie i saw: genuinely cant fucking remember. i havent watched movies or tv in so fucking long??? i can only say ive been thinking about rewatching the man from u.n.c.l.e. so many times recently, but still havent done it.

last thing i googled: “de staat 17 oktober”; saw a poster while on an evening walk and realised one of my current favourite artists are playing in october!! so i got tickets. am keeping my fingers crossed about it

other blogs: @anthrophobist: aesthetic, inactive. @ares-three: space, inactive. @cosmic-dilf: cosmic dilf. @gncgerard: mcr. more active than this blog

do i get asks: barely! 

reason for url: james flint in season 4 of black sails.

following: 260

average sleep: on a mathematical average id say roughly 6.5, maybe 7. im just the poster child for healthy sleeping habits

dream job: none. i just want to make art and tend to my vegetable garden.

dream trip: milton keynes for mcr, then bonn for mcr, then paris for the heck of it, then trondheim for black pistol fire, then rotterdam for de staat. im listing this as my dream trip bc some virus had to go and fuck things up for me and my summer plans.

currently wearing: cargo pants, white long sleeved shirt with half the sleeves cut off, black hoodie.

favorite food: this one surinamese chicken noodle dish my mum makes. fuckin glorious shit. or a good indonesian rijsttafel

instruments: i picked up bass precisely 8 days ago, ive never played an instrument before in my life.

favorite song: i think spotify would tell me it’s dear percocet by frank iero

thanks again for tagging me kelly! this was lovely.